tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post5335437008969772106..comments2023-05-15T02:41:36.030-05:00Comments on Classic Catholic: The right arm of the majesty of God and Christopher WestUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-61194531973112123422010-02-26T10:08:27.036-06:002010-02-26T10:08:27.036-06:00Ah! Gotcha.Ah! Gotcha.Robert Gotcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875252641583849137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-63322374391354899832010-02-26T07:40:54.602-06:002010-02-26T07:40:54.602-06:00Oh, no I don't think it applies to West. I t...Oh, no I don't think it applies to West. I think it applies to Hefner, though, and to those who would be more puritanical on the goodness of sexuality. West seems to be saying the same thing as O'Connor, in his own way, by trying to point out the false dichotomy between the spiritual and the material. Or at least that how I would understand it...Robert Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-26256878452361403812010-02-26T07:10:50.602-06:002010-02-26T07:10:50.602-06:00Brother Bob, how does this apply to West? Or are y...Brother Bob, how does this apply to West? Or are you saying that it does? I don't THINK he overemphasizes innocence.Robert Gotcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875252641583849137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-39392911958635744012010-02-25T19:14:03.857-06:002010-02-25T19:14:03.857-06:00Not sure if this helps, but the conversation remin...Not sure if this helps, but the conversation reminds me of Flannery O'Connor's observation that sentimentality and obscenity share the same source:<br /><br />"By separating nature and grace as much as possible, [the Catholic writer] has reduced his conception of the supernatural to pious cliché and has become able to recognize nature in literature in only two forms, the sentimental Robert Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-7978535727876743532010-02-25T14:05:30.059-06:002010-02-25T14:05:30.059-06:00West quotes from Hefner's autobiography, where...West quotes from Hefner's autobiography, where he talks about the body-hating puritanism which he grew up in.Robert Gotcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875252641583849137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-40847488107634957882010-02-25T12:48:16.962-06:002010-02-25T12:48:16.962-06:00Perhaps there isn't anything metaphysical abou...Perhaps there isn't anything metaphysical about Heffner's "view" whatever it is. Perhaps he is just a flat-out hedonist?<br /><br />Of course, I haven't really read much of his opinions and comments on things.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12402421489693903192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-47020196036108474982010-02-25T09:37:20.515-06:002010-02-25T09:37:20.515-06:00Okay. Well, I think the point the West was making ...Okay. Well, I think the point the West was making is the Hefner rejected puritanical dualism that said the body was evil and the spiritu good. I think he took the opposite position, which is also dualistic. The ultimate point West is making is that neither dualisms, whether it be puritanical or playboy, is right. John Paul II did get it right.Robert Gotcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875252641583849137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-16851902924796062982010-02-25T09:14:09.619-06:002010-02-25T09:14:09.619-06:00I'm skeptical that Hefner rejected dualism.I'm skeptical that Hefner rejected dualism.Kevin Millernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-24261749415557190132010-02-25T08:50:02.030-06:002010-02-25T08:50:02.030-06:00You would have to hear it in context to understand...You would have to hear it in context to understand. The problem is, a lot of people don't have "context" when they hear it.Robert Gotcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875252641583849137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3659111.post-91238669181648947372010-02-25T08:35:01.571-06:002010-02-25T08:35:01.571-06:00Christopher West is inviting men to reflect upon t...Christopher West is inviting men to reflect upon the blessed Mother's breasts?Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12402421489693903192noreply@blogger.com