You know, if I didn't see that this debate was sponsored by two Catholic organizations and two atheist ones, I would swear that it was rigged. D'Sousa, although his arguments are not always air tight, is at least coherent. Loftus comes off sounding like he is just shooting from the hip and as though he had never debated this issue before. Surely atheists can do better than this and Dawkins! What about Anthony Flew? Oh, wait; he converted to theism.